tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post6247985658326955303..comments2024-02-28T11:23:42.286-06:00Comments on How To Train Your Dragon: Calling OTTB OwnersCheckmark115http://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-69563954287842053182013-04-01T10:46:43.205-05:002013-04-01T10:46:43.205-05:00I had a very heavy mare and used the lever noseban...I had a very heavy mare and used the lever noseband with great success. I never cranked it down, just enough pressure that when she would pull it pulled back and when she was soft it was soft. A nice way to add control without getting handsy. I used a single joint 'bent' kk bit with it.redheadlinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736154763329900177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-18621442452421502712013-04-01T10:45:52.239-05:002013-04-01T10:45:52.239-05:00I had a very heavy mare and used the lever noseban...I had a very heavy mare and used the lever noseband with great success. I never cranked it down, just enough pressure that when she would pull it pulled back and when she was soft it was soft. A nice way to add control without getting handsy. I used a single joint 'bent' kk bit with it.redheadlinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736154763329900177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-21482975722598351232013-03-13T13:14:19.261-05:002013-03-13T13:14:19.261-05:00Done that :/Done that :/Checkmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-41164751119030771632013-03-13T12:33:56.462-05:002013-03-13T12:33:56.462-05:00I've ridden multiple of horses that pull and a...I've ridden multiple of horses that pull and am a big fan of the rubber or snaffle gag (depending on your horse's needs)used with two reins and a figure eight noseband. The gag with two reins, gives me the option to be super gentle (snaffle rein) or apply pressure (gag rein). I mostly use the snaffle rein, once the horse realizes the gag rein is there. I prefer the rubber bit, because it gives mouthy TBs something to chew/play with, but I know rubber bits aren't for all horses. Additionally, I know the gag and/or two reins is not for everyone either, but thought I'd throw in my two cents :-) Good Luck!Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748679550207078870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-91566886246943976932013-03-13T11:41:55.231-05:002013-03-13T11:41:55.231-05:00Do you already have the three ring? I'm not su...Do you already have the three ring? I'm not sure if I misunderstood or not but my suggestion would be to put a leather curb strap on that and use two reins. Might be worth a try before you have to buy somethingAnnahttps://www.facebook.com/anna.harbaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-11183931181234047662013-03-12T22:10:42.424-05:002013-03-12T22:10:42.424-05:00Have you tried a kimberwicke? That was my step up ...Have you tried a kimberwicke? That was my step up from a waterford for foxhunting. Like you, a pelham was too much for my guy but the kimberwicke gave me enough to say HEY!!! and then get out of his face. LOVED IT.<br /><br />If the metal curb is too much, I believe they have leather ones, and I think you can buy a neoprene cover for the chain as well. Might be worth a try on your pelham?jenjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01737679332792618499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-65186061396786532882013-03-12T20:07:35.626-05:002013-03-12T20:07:35.626-05:00I might try a kineton, it's good for horses th...I might try a kineton, it's good for horses that respond well to nose pressure but don't like leverage on a chain or curb strap. As to getting them cheap, they do pop up on ebay every so often, that's where I got mine for $30, you just might have to wait a really long time...TBAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06791705770758173580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-1846107632312337132013-03-12T18:00:49.478-05:002013-03-12T18:00:49.478-05:00I've used a Kinetons before. It will apply a b...I've used a Kinetons before. It will apply a bit of nose pressure, but it is actually designed to relieve bit pressure on the mouth - for horses that don't like a lot of contact, so I would imagine it might actually provide you with less stopping power unless he's particularly sensitive to nose pressure. Check out http://www.sustainabledressage.net/tack/bridle.php#kineton (not my blog) for more information. From that blog "The kineton noseband is an efficient way to stop the bit from hurting the mouth if the horse trips or jerks his head or seeks too heavy support or whatever. Because it moves the pressure away from the bars and onto the nose. It has a restraining function on the nose of the horse, like a hackamore without leverage."<br />I really liked the kineton. I used it when I taught summer camps to protect the horses from having their mouths hauled upon by small children. I just don't know that it will solve your problem. Have you tried a real gag bit? Not the 3 rings things, but one with the actual rope through the bit. The show barn I grew up in used them on the speed demon horses and then I got really used to them when I played polo. You can also use the ringed gag bits. The apply leverage without anything in the chin groove.<br />I don't compete so I have no idea how "legal" a gag bit is, but I remember using them a lot when I rode jumpers/cc in high school. Plus, they're cheap and available on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-1-4-Copper-loose-ring-snaffle-gag-bit-with-leather-gags-used-/221199992285?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33808c05ddOlivia @ DIY Horse Ownershiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16138490796669110523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-61117189063603449182013-03-12T17:35:53.387-05:002013-03-12T17:35:53.387-05:00I have a Kineton that I use on my gelding, Houston...I have a Kineton that I use on my gelding, Houston. He seems kind of similar to your guy in that a Pelham was a bit too much and he backs off is the bit is too hard. I used the Kineton with a loose ring snaffle or a KK Ultra. It really helps give me just a bit more oomph. Goodluck finding one. Mine was'nt expensive but as I mentioned in my comment on your last post I got it on closeout in a tack trailer... VTO has them for $79 and I am pretty sure there is a coupon code out there floating around... You should give it a try! I love mine. Hillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02884053627728391449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-85635671216214806712013-03-12T16:14:10.016-05:002013-03-12T16:14:10.016-05:00I vote yes to the kineton. It sounds like what you...I vote yes to the kineton. It sounds like what you're looking for, plus then I would know a little bit more about it.SprinklerBandithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02948487857418394022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-85937153321946479572013-03-12T16:05:58.521-05:002013-03-12T16:05:58.521-05:00Hillary at the Blog Equestrian at Hart has a Kinet...Hillary at the Blog Equestrian at Hart has a Kineton and uses it on her Warmblood (second time I've even heard of this thing haha)<br /><br />Karley over at All In (dondeestahenry.blogspot.com) uses a Mikmar on her horse and she could probably tell you more about that.<br /><br />I've used a Wedge/Fishback with success for a little more brake, but the Pelham worked the best for me, sorry it didn't work out for you :(L.Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05052638724440787772noreply@blogger.com