tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post8252732129438568199..comments2024-02-28T11:23:42.286-06:00Comments on How To Train Your Dragon: What Do Wednesday: BodyworkCheckmark115http://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-16581841217498432852016-01-27T18:21:20.680-06:002016-01-27T18:21:20.680-06:00I've never used any of them for me or the hors...I've never used any of them for me or the horses. I'm actually considering seeing a chiro for myself because I have some bad crookedness and pain going on (I apparently cross my legs way too much!). I haven't tried it yet though. I would love to try a chiro or massage therapist for Chrome because I know his stifles probably cause all kinds of soreness or compensation, but I can't find anyone! I've only been able to find one person that I would have to haul an hour to, is extremely expensive and I can't find anyone who has used him or reviews or anything. Also he's actually mainly a human chiro.... so I have no idea how much he actually knows about horses. :\ So I'm looking forward to seeing if it helps B. Maybe someday I'll be able to find someone to try on Chrome. :)Achieve1dreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15401246064499148344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-12307524158518571672016-01-22T10:14:12.222-06:002016-01-22T10:14:12.222-06:00When I bought Ries, his previous owner said he nee...When I bought Ries, his previous owner said he needed routine chiropractor. I did it once and didn't notice a difference. Basically for four years I was like NOPE. Moving up to Idaho things changed. There was a woman who ALWAYS was at our barn doing massages and a fellow boarder told me how much he needed it. It was only $45 so I said sure and ever since then I haven't looked back. This made a HUGE difference in Ries. I think different horses require different massage therapists(that have different techniques). But anytime Ries is NQR she almost always is able to fix it. He is much more pleasant and improves faster. Micaylahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09799043647759779897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-6351458224822255872016-01-21T06:13:06.736-06:002016-01-21T06:13:06.736-06:00I don't at all have the money at the moment fo...I don't at all have the money at the moment for regular bodywork (for me or the horse...but the horse comes first!) but I wish I did! Mostly just for peice of mind. I've had a chiro out for my pony twice: the first time was a lady who was certified in both horse and human massage and reiki and I used her cause our regular vet who is also a chiro was away. I can't remember how I decided that it was chiro that she needed (or who told me) but at the time Maggie was having some NQRness/lameness in her hind end. This lady spent like 20 minutes on her total, first with the loud clicky thing (I have literally no idea what it's called. They click it at different pint son the body and it makes a loud noise and like presses a pressure point?) and then just holding her hands over different parts of Maggie's body. She spent the longest with her hands over Maggie's right hip and stifle until Maggie let out a huge sigh. After that - NQRness/lameness totally gone. I still don't really know what to think cause I've never really been about all the energy stuff, but I can't argue with the results. Freaking weird.<br /><br />The second time was with the regular vet who is also a chiro. I wanted him out at the beginning of last season just kind of to make sure she was good and starting off clean - he didn't find anything ot of whack so it wasn't nearly as an exciting of a visit, but still good peice of mind!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16411599470246102708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-51681144581095513252016-01-20T22:20:45.777-06:002016-01-20T22:20:45.777-06:00First, I'd like to say that I really enjoy rea...First, I'd like to say that I really enjoy reading your blog! Also, I've never actually posted on a blog before and only doing so because I experienced the exact same thing with my horse. I thought she had tweaked something out in the paddock because she was ever so slightly NQR, she was doing the same thing at the canter and I also thought the problem was in the hips. Had the Osteopathe out to put her back in place which did wonders. Horse was seen regularly by Osteopathe until one day she said wouldn't be able come out for a few months. Asked my vet if he knew anyone and he said that although the Osteopathe might help unblock her, the underlying issue wasn't getting resolved just Like that. I told him she was "out" from the hips and he went on to tell me that when people think their horse is out in the hip area he always looks at the hocks first because that's usually where the problem is. Low and behold he takes some X-rays and she has a bone chip in her hock. It might not be the same for you but thought I'd put it out there just because the situation sounds eerily the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-42812728287591971562016-01-20T20:40:24.817-06:002016-01-20T20:40:24.817-06:00This is what I'm looking for for sure! I want ...This is what I'm looking for for sure! I want to see if theres anything internal miss magic hands can help me with in the long run!Checkmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-67829358007899799442016-01-20T20:39:48.468-06:002016-01-20T20:39:48.468-06:00I'm hopeful that it will be worth it! Thanks f...I'm hopeful that it will be worth it! Thanks for the comment! :)Checkmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-82174795753377720892016-01-20T20:38:43.258-06:002016-01-20T20:38:43.258-06:00Been in this camp a looooong while and even though...Been in this camp a looooong while and even though I am *trying* out a massage therapist ,I won't be jumping on the bodywork everything train, that is fo' damn sho'Checkmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-7215242405510120162016-01-20T20:37:21.559-06:002016-01-20T20:37:21.559-06:00You should try it, it really worked a miracle in m...You should try it, it really worked a miracle in my injury!Checkmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-12619823898503433602016-01-20T20:36:55.676-06:002016-01-20T20:36:55.676-06:00Had to google osteopath haha. It seems to me vets ...Had to google osteopath haha. It seems to me vets are good for external injuries and thats about it -_- I'm so happy it all worked for you! I am game to try it for nowCheckmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-484032325188641932016-01-20T20:36:04.966-06:002016-01-20T20:36:04.966-06:00hahah TAKE MY MONIEShahah TAKE MY MONIESCheckmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-88002822954114414662016-01-20T20:35:42.570-06:002016-01-20T20:35:42.570-06:00I like that you use it to keep tabs on progress, s...I like that you use it to keep tabs on progress, smart!Checkmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-87033953459211823312016-01-20T20:35:17.923-06:002016-01-20T20:35:17.923-06:00Nicole, I actually experienced positive things wit...Nicole, I actually experienced positive things with acupuncture in my injured shoulder. Also a technique called dry needling, similar but not the same. I don't see some magical benefit so I wouldn't pay for it for my horse, but in combination with PT, massage and acupuncture (during PT) my shoulder is healing quicklyCheckmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-30169377595334863532016-01-20T20:33:45.692-06:002016-01-20T20:33:45.692-06:00Chiming in here, in MO the chiro that came out to ...Chiming in here, in MO the chiro that came out to our barn (that cost an arm and a leg) I know for a fact was not a DVM, so theres thatCheckmark115https://www.blogger.com/profile/08875106264738444238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-9867639865640089642016-01-20T16:53:30.985-06:002016-01-20T16:53:30.985-06:00Hmm. I've been at multiple barns (in Californi...Hmm. I've been at multiple barns (in California) which have used chiropractors, and I believe only one I've ever seen was actually a DVM. Many of these were highly well-respected chiropractors, but the vast majority were certainly not DVMs. Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11435385218009729258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-57686126186386241942016-01-20T16:01:48.916-06:002016-01-20T16:01:48.916-06:00Chiro is regulated and only DVMs are allowed to ga...Chiro is regulated and only DVMs are allowed to gain a license for adjusting. While there are non licensed people practing, it's few and far in between. Individual styles, however vary greatly. Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09671546506163752884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-74185514880346964062016-01-20T15:19:02.512-06:002016-01-20T15:19:02.512-06:00I used to believe chiropractic work on horses and ...I used to believe chiropractic work on horses and humans was total hokum. Then my chiropractor fixed my (then) lease horse's utter inability to canter right with one session. No, it wasn't the slow work over time that fixed this, he couldn't canter right on Wednesday and then he could after her session on Thursday. Boom.<br /><br />That being said, I think that equine chiropraactic work is incredibly underregulated and all kinds of hinky shit goes on, therefore I would only trust certain people to work on my horse. People that are slamming horses up against walls to adjust parts of their body? No thanks. Chiropractors that insist you just have to keep adjusting them every 2-4-6 weeks with no expectation that correct work and muscle retraining will eventually reduce those adjustment frequencies? Definitely not. My chiropractor is an equine veterinarian and GP dressage rider and trainer, and I drink the koolaid. But I don't drink just anyone's koolaid.<br /><br />Massage I am more liberal about. I certainly feel better after a massage, and I think it's harder to fuck up or do super weird shit with massage than it is with chiropractic. Sore muscles are sore muscles, and pressure and release on those muscles helps work soreness out. I would be more open to a stranger doing massage on my horse. But I'm also a (cheap) freak so I want to be present for the massage and learn what I can do to alleviate horsey's aches and pains in between appointments, which will be rare.<br /><br />I draw the line at acupuncture. Not enough evidence yet, for me. And let's not even talk about chakras or chinese herbs! Not. Happening.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834098473974912416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-62138366122108921142016-01-20T13:59:53.730-06:002016-01-20T13:59:53.730-06:00I had my ottb done a few times and I can't att...I had my ottb done a few times and I can't attest to long term results because I ended up retiring him due to ringbone, but I can say I did learn a lot about my horse from a chiro. She pointed out that his hind end muscles were crooked and driven up because the tip of his hind end bone on the side of his tail on the right side was cracked off (I guess human equivalent would be our seat bones). Likely due to being shoved in a starting gate or when he was shoved in a van to get taken off the track his last race. <br /><br />Had I known he was dealing with that crookedness behind I would have definitely trained him differently in the beginning! So, maybe save for a visit or two and see what you find out. But yes, that is a lot of money just to experiment with.Allisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10135556229797773442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-6227763706147878582016-01-20T12:11:34.074-06:002016-01-20T12:11:34.074-06:00I'm pretty religious about keeping the schedul...I'm pretty religious about keeping the scheduled bodywork up especially on the developing young horses. It's been a large part of my program and has extended my older FEI horse's career (sound and competing at 17-18 years). <br /><br />My general philosophy on it is that it needs to be done with a larger picture in mind, my program also specifically goes after the root of the problem versus the symptom as well, massage, chiro and acupuncture help with this. Alongside good equipment, farrier work, and riding. <br /><br />It's also saved me from having to inject until much later in their careers on and also avoid using medications. Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09671546506163752884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-58941592635775529002016-01-20T10:35:11.472-06:002016-01-20T10:35:11.472-06:00As the owner of two very healthy, normally sound e...As the owner of two very healthy, normally sound elderly Thoroughbreds, I am firmly in the "No bodywork for my horses" camp. I simply don't have the money to shell out for regular work for both of them, and they honest-to-god don't exhibit weird NQR shit. (If they're lame, it's because some direct injury has happened.)<br /><br />The barn where they live is ALL about the acupuncture/chiro/massage/lasers/unlocking the chakras (it's all dressage queens), so for fun, I had the chiro work on each horse once. He reported that Moe was totally fine, not out of whack anywhere, which I found difficult to believe- he was 19 and had been jumping most of his life! Gina was reportedly completely out of sorts, which made sense to me. Neither horse seemed to exhibit any changes after treatment. <br /><br />At any rate, more power to the people whose horses it legitimately helps, but for mine, it just isn't worth the money. Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07140631127593549541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-27618921428889636072016-01-20T10:14:09.582-06:002016-01-20T10:14:09.582-06:00I've never had a massage or chiro on myself, E...I've never had a massage or chiro on myself, EVER. And I shell out $$$ for my horse to have it ALL THE GODDAMN TIME. It is a game changer for him. Courage has a lot of lingering physical issues from his time on the track+his conformation and we have a GREAT lady who works on him pretty regularly. I can definitely tell the difference in my riding--he starts to get cranky and stuck when it's time to get worked on again. <br /><br />Not all people work for all horses. Cuna never really needed any work at all. There are some practitioners that I wouldn't let near my horse, ever. I'd get recommendations from local friends and see what you come up with.SprinklerBandithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02948487857418394022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-28007957718270064612016-01-20T09:58:39.267-06:002016-01-20T09:58:39.267-06:00I have used a chiropractor, acupuncturist, osteopa...I have used a chiropractor, acupuncturist, osteopath and a massage therapist. Most of those have been for Apollo. He had some NQR-ness that the vets couldn't seem to help (did xrays, flexions etc). It turned out it was ulcers and he also had a few other issues that weren't helping (pelvis was out and one rib was out) - all diagnosed by a chiropractor/acupuncturist not a vet! If it wasn't for the help of body workers he would be retired! So I'm pretty grateful for them. Apollo is seen by a massage therapist every two months (unless we have an issue) and I try to have the chiro/acupuncturist (same lady) twice a year. He's an older dude and I do notice that this really helps him. Just my $0.02. KateRosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12870548960430847612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-45862014592744688242016-01-20T08:33:42.884-06:002016-01-20T08:33:42.884-06:00I fully, completely support it. Take my monies, bo...I fully, completely support it. Take my monies, body workers. My horse and I worship you.Carlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308477892024999793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1557992152073605177.post-12335490411538337982016-01-20T08:05:30.296-06:002016-01-20T08:05:30.296-06:00i use chiro/acupuncture on my lease mare fairly re...i use chiro/acupuncture on my lease mare fairly regularly, mostly to work on her chronically sore back. she enjoys it and goes better afterward, and it helps me keep tabs on which elements of my horse care and fitness routine are working, and which need updating. that said tho, i don't worry myself sick if budget or other constraints mean we miss an appointment. emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686949099663199382noreply@blogger.com